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11. Jul 2007 at 11:42
 
Greetings from an Aussie Newbie everyone...

I was watching a DVD this afternoon that involved autopsies on bodies which had been wiling donated to medical science by people before death. My questions are these.

1. How does Doctor Schweitzer's "Reverence For Life" philosophy stand in light of the people on whose bodies the autopsies that I was watching, willing donating their bodies for this purpose?

2. How does  the phiosophy stand in light of organ donation and the need for some people to undergo organ transplantation? What if a person chooses not to donate their organs? What does this mean in terms of Reverence For Life? Should people be made to donate to keep the philosophy alive?

3. What were Doctor Schweitzer's thoughts and beliefs regarding medical science, organ and body donation in regards to the Reverence For Life?

Sorry for all the questions but I am an organ and body donor and was wondering how my choice to do this after my death may influence my belief in  Doctor Schweitzer and what he was so passionate about and body and organ donation which I'm so passionate about.  I believe that through the donation of my organs, saving eight or so lives is much less selfish than taking them to the grave where they'll be no use to anyone and by using my body in medical research, doctors may just find the cure for some of the world's illnesses.

Thanks in advance for your help...

Megan
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Reply #1 - 31. Jul 2007 at 15:58
 
Megan,
I can't possibly know what Dr. Schweitzer's specific thoughts would be on this topic.  However, based on what I do know about his philosophies, he wanted each of us to make every effort to respect and preserve life and not destroy it in vain - that is to kill or injur without necessity to preserve your own life or the life of others, or to injur or kill for sport or without any conscious awareness of the impact that you and your actions have on ALL living plants and animals.

What Dr. Schweitzer wants each of us to do is be aware in every single moment how we impact the earth and it's creatures.  Sometimes it's absolutely unavoidable that we injur life such as when we kill an ant that we didn't see on the sidewalk or road.  But, all he wanted us to learn is that we need to acknowledge that we have killed them and do our best not to.  The more aware you become of your own impact on life on this earth, the more you will make an effort to avoid killing or injuring anything.  But certainly, even Dr. Schweitzer realizes that we would become neurotic nut cases if we became so paranoid that we feared walking the street because we feared injuring an insect.  His point is that if you see life struggling, lend it a hand.  If you see the ant on the sidewalk, walk around it and if you see someone in need of assistance, offer what you have to give.

I would think that organ donation would be an unselfish decision to preserve life and not destroy it unless of course, someone is stealing organs from living people!
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Reply #2 - 02. Aug 2007 at 10:09
 
Hi Eliza...thanks for the reply.

I thought this is what the answer may be in terms of Reverance For Life. As I said in my post, I believe that organ and body donation is in line with his thoughts as it is a means to preserve life moreso than being selfish and taking organs to the grave where they are unable to be used by anyone.

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Reply #3 - 02. Aug 2007 at 11:29
 
Good Day Megan!
You're on the right path and your mindset is one of giving in this matter.  I commend you for thinking beyond the scope of your own life and for realizing that even in death, we can continue to give.
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Reply #4 - 02. Aug 2007 at 13:22
 
Thanks for the kind words Eliza. Organ donation is a cause very close to my heart (if you'll pardon the pun) as I believe that it would be very selfish of me to take my organs to the grave when so many people are in desperate need of organ transplants.

My first ever school headmaster who remained a life-long friend and mentor died suddenly and was an organ donor. The gift of his corneas gave the gift of sight to an 18 year old girl who had been blind since birth and his kidneys allowed a 45 year old woman to be free of dialyis for the first time in 40 years.

The day after his funeral, I signed up to become a donor and proudly carry my donor's card in my wallet. My family knows of my choice and my younger brother is considering becoming a donor also.
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Reply #5 - 02. Aug 2007 at 14:18
 
It's truly amazing how your friend's values live on through you and the people that received his organs.  
Your story reminded me of how each of us should be aware in every moment how we impact others' lives on this earth.  Even when it's not obvious that our actions and our words have touched someone, they do!  In every moment we have a choice to be giving or selfish, patient or impatient, hateful or loving, respectful or judgmental, etc...  We can decide which seed we want to plant in every moment!

I believe that when people choose to plant anger and hatred and other negative seeds that it must be because they do not realize how truly powerful they are as individuals and therefore don't believe that they make a good or bad difference in this world.  This is why it's so important to love yourself and value yoruself.  

What are your thoughts?

And back to organ donations...I don't know if you believe in karma but I do believe that  organs contain the same energy in them that the owner of them had.  So, I think it's best to nurture our organs with good and positive energy so that when we donate them they will have a positive effect on the recipient.

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Reply #6 - 02. Aug 2007 at 14:40
 
Well said Eliza and I totally agree!! Smiley

I think that as human beings, we often don't realize how a misused, harsh word or a negative action or behaviour can hurt another deeply. I do believe in karma and also believe that you should treat others as you would like to be treated. However, sometimes it's easier to take the easy and selfish way out and do things and behave in a way that will impact negatively on others and the world around us.

I also think it's so easy to get caught thinking about ourselves and how the world has wronged us and how easy it is to want revenge for perceived wrong doings that we forget about how this may impact on others.

I want the garden of my life to be filled with the seeds of all that is good and right. If only it was that easy to make the right choices during our life-time.
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Reply #7 - 02. Aug 2007 at 15:11
 
Gauky,
Nice to meet you!  I really am SO glad to find this forum.

Now, back to your comment about ' if only it were that easy....".  
I know it's difficult to tolerate others' anger and less than loving ways but if we really think about how love requires less energy than anger, it seems absurd that any of us would want to work as hard as we do to be angry, bitter, unforgiving, and resentful.  

Self awareness is the key to making conscious choices.  If someone were to walk up to you and punch you, you might want to instinctly punch them back.  But, if you stop and allow yourself to realize what you're about to do, you probably wouldn't do it.  Most quarrels and hateful words are perpetuated in those moments when we lack control and spiritual awareness.  We are not responsible for other people's actions, only our own.  After all, in the end, our life has really only been between you and the universe.

You can easily achieve what you desire if you align all the elements of your life with your beliefs.  You want to plants seeds of love and truth and righteousness and so, in each moment you can stop briefly and ask yourself if what you are about to do aligns with those values and ethics.  Noone of us is perfect.  But also realize that making a mistake doesn't make us imperfect.  Good character recognizes when we have wronged ourselves or someone else and a healthy conscience provides us with the means to right the wrongs we committ.  

I don't like to sound cynical but it seems to me that there are too many people in this world who seem to lack any conscience and therefore have bad character!  Our society has become rather ' anti-social'.  Do you agree?

On a positive note, we have forums like this for people like us who can find others with a similar mindset to help nurture the goodness in life and in ourselves so that we can recharge and endure with grace.  Thank goodness!  

You're a sower of good seed Gauky...keep planting and you will receive a much larger harvest than you imagined.  

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Reply #8 - 02. Aug 2007 at 15:12
 
Gauky,
Nice to meet you!  I really am SO glad to find this forum.

Now, back to your comment about ' if only it were that easy....".  
I know it's difficult to tolerate others' anger and less than loving ways but if we really think about how love requires less energy than anger, it seems absurd that any of us would want to work as hard as we do to be angry, bitter, unforgiving, and resentful.  

Self awareness is the key to making conscious choices.  If someone were to walk up to you and punch you, you might want to instinctly punch them back.  But, if you stop and allow yourself to realize what you're about to do, you probably wouldn't do it.  Most quarrels and hateful words are perpetuated in those moments when we lack control and spiritual awareness.  We are not responsible for other people's actions, only our own.  After all, in the end, our life has really only been between you and the universe.

You can easily achieve what you desire if you align all the elements of your life with your beliefs.  You want to plants seeds of love and truth and righteousness and so, in each moment you can stop briefly and ask yourself if what you are about to do aligns with those values and ethics.  Noone of us is perfect.  But also realize that making a mistake doesn't make us imperfect.  Good character recognizes when we have wronged ourselves or someone else and a healthy conscience provides us with the means to right the wrongs we committ.  

I don't like to sound cynical but it seems to me that there are too many people in this world who seem to lack any conscience and therefore have bad character!  Our society has become rather ' anti-social'.  Do you agree?

On a positive note, we have forums like this for people like us who can find others with a similar mindset to help nurture the goodness in life and in ourselves so that we can recharge and endure with grace.  Thank goodness!  

You're a sower of good seed Gauky...keep planting and you will receive a much larger harvest than you imagined.  

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Reply #9 - 02. Aug 2007 at 15:14
 
SORRY for the double post.  My internet connection failed????  and it indicated that it didn't post the first time!
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Reply #10 - 02. Aug 2007 at 15:20
 
Megan,
DUH!  I feel like a doofus now that I didn't realize YOU were using Gauky as a handle.

Love and Peace, Eliza
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Reply #11 - 06. Aug 2007 at 00:09
 
Don't worry Eliza...easy enough mistake to make. Smiley

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Reply #12 - 26. Sep 2007 at 16:23
 
I found this quotation from "Civilisation and Ethics" which clarifies a lot of questions about Schweitzer and Medicin, esp. vivisection:

"Especially because the animal world, in its role as 'Guinea-pig', has achieved through its pain, so much that is valuable to suffering humanity, a new and singular feeling of solidarity has been forged between us. Out of this arises a duty for each of us to be good to all creatures where ever we can be. By helping an insect out of a tight spot, I am doing nothing other than to attempt to equalise the ever new imbalance of debt between Mankind and the animal world."

(My own hasty translation from the German)

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Reply #13 - 27. Sep 2007 at 09:02
 
Hi Percy...

Just saw this and I thank you for your answer. A severe allergic reaction as a result of coming into contact with latex, has prevented me from answering this until now.Sad

Am I to gain from reading this, that my belief in organ and body donation does not go against Reverence for Life or have I read it incorrectly??

Namaste..

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Reply #14 - 27. Sep 2007 at 11:54
 
Hi Megan,

do I take it that the allergic reaction has subsided? I hope so! But the quotation was only posted yesterday, so you have seen it straight away.

The quotation, to my mind, does not specifically apply to organ transplants. It confirms, that Schweitzer was not against animal experiments per-say, but that he drew attention to the resonsibility it places on us in recognising the debt to the animal world we there-by incurr and to be ever open to pay-back time.

I have not seen anything Schweitzer has said about organ donation or transplants, but we must remember, that he died in 1965 and the ability to make such things work properly was not widely known then. I think we have to make up our own minds as to how we interpret Reverence for Life in this regard, - and I for one would say that done responsibly, it must be "life enhancing and bringing life to its highest potential" to let your organ live on and improve the life of someone else.

Schweitzer being an immensly practical person, I cannot imagine, that he would have had thoughts about the sanctity and integrity of the body, once the soul had left it and moved on. But if I come across anything that might give us a clue regarding this I will certainly post it here.

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