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Reply #45 - 01. Oct 2007 at 13:06
 
Hi Fean,
Can you tell us the German name of the book which you are reading exactly as it is written. I can read German and I probably know the book.
Yes, Schweitzer's own writing is difficult to read. We have to remember that he was educated over 100 years ago and that he was a Theologean and Philosopher before he became a Doctor of Medicin. His sentences are long and sometimes difficult to follow, so you mustn't feel bad about that, - you are certainly not alone in finding this to be so.
Is it easier for you to read German rather than English? If so, I can recommend some German books for you and maybe send you some, next time I am in Switzerland.
Unfortunately, I don't know of an organisation/group in California. but Albert Schweitzer's daughter and granddaughter live there. However I don't think they will want their address posted on the internet. If you wish, I could ask them to contact you, if you  E-mail me your address on percy.mark@btinternet.com
Take care and go gently and carefully through the world's rough and tumble!
Namaste    Percy
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Reply #46 - 01. Oct 2007 at 15:17
 
PERCY!  I don't know whether to laugh or scold you for stomping on your mouse!   Mice certainly create ethical problems, don't they?  They force us to confront them in a very desperate and aggressive fashion and although I don't like being so 'violent', I fear that it's a war that we cannot allow them to win!  For starters, they don't use birth control and my house isn't large enough to accomodate their large families!  hehehe

Last week I went into my attic to get some warmer sweaters to wear and that little mouse did a job on my favorite 'popcorn' sweater.  It's one of those wooly type sweaters with little knit balls all over it.  Anyway, this mouse pulled my balls off the sweater and left them in a neat pile on the floor.  I'm so glad that she's moved out!  I sat there sifting through my sweaters and realized that she didn't seem to find any other ones interesting...just the one that I love so much!  

I had a cat years ago, very much like yours and she would catch the mice and then lay them next to her and go to sleep with them.  I even have pictures of Elsa snuggling with the mice.  She never ate them...just tormented them until they died.

I must agree with your wife that those mice droppings are truly the most digusting annoyances.  I have been exhausted this past month from having to get up every morning and clean and sterilize my countertops and pantry.  I would have to repeat this cleaning ritual every day upon returning home.  I am truly relieved that this ordeal is over.  

Apparently, the south is having a real issue with attic rats now too.  Oh joy.  I suppose i'll be next.  my friend told me, ' Lizzie, these animals come to you because they know you love animals'....gee, I feel so fortunate!  

The most ethical solution is to purchase those haveaheart traps I suppose and then release them.

If only we could all have the discipline and self control to avoid the chocolate like the mice do ( as referenced in your post)....hehehehe

Have a good week!  Lizzie
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Reply #47 - 01. Nov 2007 at 03:28
 
percy wrote on 01. Oct 2007 at 13:06:
Hi Fean,
Can you tell us the German name of the book which you are reading exactly as it is written. I can read German and I probably know the book.
Yes, Schweitzer's own writing is difficult to read. We have to remember that he was educated over 100 years ago and that he was a Theologean and Philosopher before he became a Doctor of Medicin. His sentences are long and sometimes difficult to follow, so you mustn't feel bad about that, - you are certainly not alone in finding this to be so.
Is it easier for you to read German rather than English? If so, I can recommend some German books for you and maybe send you some, next time I am in Switzerland.
Unfortunately, I don't know of an organisation/group in California. but Albert Schweitzer's daughter and granddaughter live there. However I don't think they will want their address posted on the internet. If you wish, I could ask them to contact you, if you  E-mail me your address on percy.mark@btinternet.com
Take care and go gently and carefully through the world's rough and tumble!
Namaste    Percy


hi again.. ahh.. I have already written you an email Percy..
The book is called Albert Schweitzer Die Ehrfurcht vor dem Leben, Grundtexte aus 5 Jahrzenten (herausgegeben von Hans W. Baehr)
ah so you can read german!.. well, german is my mother tongue, but it even might be easier to read then the same text in english?, but I don't know.. or is it then also maybe written in an 'older' english, and with longer sentences too?
when I have time for more reading inbetween, I will also look here for some books in english, will definitely look for those also which you recommended me..
ok will write more in this thread and other threads when I get to it..
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Reply #48 - 07. Feb 2008 at 02:12
 
hi you all..
I finally get to to writing here a bit at least..
so much has been going on for me now here in California!!.. and unfortunately the last several weeks were totally 'crazy', in a 'bad' way unfortunately, like one thing happening after the other.. Sad  but now I trust that everything can only get better!.. it has been really hard and difficult for me, and still is kind of right now.. what has been happening,..
I wish much that right now I could write you more about this all in detail, but it would be too long to write everything here right now, even can't look online that long at the moment..
but I can sum up a few things very briefly, so this doesn't include important details or so, but just generally summed up --- I was with a family in San Mateo, since I arrived here in CA in August, they have two girls, twins, they are 4 years old.. and everything has been great, until several weeks ago, when all this began, like one thing happening after the other.... something was for me in December which affected me very much emotionally, has to do with a guy.. and then in January I had a car accident with the girls, but fortunately noone got hurt!!.. and there have been kind of 'communication problems' in some way, and other for me terrible things, with my hostparents and me.. and it has come now that I needed to leave them! -- I am doing this Au Pair year with an agency, so that's good about it, that if you need to change hostfamilies (and also was suprised to hear about some other Au Pairs also more recently who needed to change hostfamilies), that they begin searching for new hostfamily as soon as possible.. well with that also not everything is so 'great', but ok, I really had good support from my Local Childcare Coordinator... so then you still have a two weeks period to stay with the family, and in this time another family needs to be found.. and I even didn't know first where I would go, could have been to another state, anywhere in the USA.. and I was hoping soo much that I could stay in CA!.. and now am at least soo relieved because I found a family in Brentwood, which is east of San Mateo, about 60 miles.. so am even not thaaat far away.. it has been terrible for me, you can imagine, all these situations, have affected me so much emotionally!.. and also, everything has been great with the girls and me, I love them, and they love me!! so it just had more to do with things happening and with the relationship between me and the hostparents, more so the hostmom and me.. so I am so sad that all this happened..
so I arrived  on Saturday with this hostfamily where I am right now in Brentwood.. they have two boys, ages 2 and 5.. so also that is a bigger change for me now, now after the girls, the boys.. and also that they are different ages.. and now everything new for me, new place, new family.. and I had been with the other family for about 5 months!.. and now all this happening.. but I trust, as best as I can, that all is happening for a 'reason'.. so even though I don't know 'why'.. I just feel so 'lost' in somehow now.. so I still need more time to 'heal' from all this happening, and 'digest' this all more..
it would be important that I tell you much more about this, everything in detail, but I can't write that long here at the moment.. and ok, a few things I actually wouldn't just write her publicly, I just thought of.. because everyone else can have access to this forum, so..
so now the last several weeks I even didn't get to get more information about books about Albert Schweitzer or research more here on the internet, or whatever.. but I have been just checking here to our forum whenever I have been able to, and will so of course..
a pity that right now not so much has been going on here recently....
I would like so much to talk with you about so many things, also especially here in the philosophical thread.. and also more specifically about animals too, and well it is all together of course, our lives, us human beings, animals and well you know it, EVERYTHING!!!.... so whenever I get a chance to, I will write more, and hope that I can talk with some of you about this all more.. I mean most of it I have already written right here in this thread also!! everything already written, summed up, about my feelings, thoughts and views, my life also more,..!!...
so would be soo happy if I could talk with you all more about this all!..
ok, so, bye for now you all..
special wave @ Megan Smiley (*love you* Smiley)
and have been missing you Matt.. - hope you get a chance to come by here and write sometime soon again!..
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Reply #49 - 07. Feb 2008 at 12:28
 
Hi Faen...so glad to hear from you again, but sad also, that you are having such a difficult time of it right now. I quite understand, that you can't relate all the personal details in the Forum, but you have said enough for us to realize, how emotionally challenging a time it has been for you.
Looking back over the 70 odd years of my life, (well, not quite so many because I can't remember much of the first half dozen) I share your "trust....that all is happening for a reason", but often this only becomes clear much later. It is important, though, to accept what has happened without condemning it, move on, and trust that the reason will become clear and the lessons can be learnt at some time in the future.

Perhaps it may help you, if you remind yourself of how you felt when you first set off to go to California, - how excited you were to go of into a new life and adventure and how you felt confident, that you would make the best of whatever came along: Perhaps you can recapture some of that again in you present situation, to give it every chance of success. Looking back with recrimination rarely helps and understanding comes with time. Just hang on to your enthusiasm and your youthful ideals, - Schweitzer placed great store on "the ideals of youth" - and carry on with the adventure of finding the good and the true in the world! - end of sermon!

Lizzie, how are you these days?
I have another "mouse story" you might enjoy, on which my wife has dined successfully at my expense on many occasions:
Star had yet again brought a little mouse into the sitting room. My daughter was staying with us at the time, - a very energetic and competent woman, - and she set about catching the little creature. After a while we had it cornered and I  but my two feet in front of it, boxing it in so that my daughter could pick it up. But when she bent down to it, it was gone! disappeared! just nowhere to be seen. We looked all around but - gone! So we returned to the breakfast table somewhat puzzled and continued our conversation and our coffee.
When I prepared to get up and clear away the dishes, (well brought up by my children by now......) I felt something scrambling inside my trousers at the top of my left leg, disconcertingly near my private parts. It took a moment to realize what it most be and to cup my hand over whatever it was and make my way out and up into the garden, followed by wife, daughter and grandchildren in some excitement. There I carefully dropped my trousers and revealed the little - the tiniest little shrew - sitting in my cupped hand sniffing the air curiously......at all the "ohhhhhs!" and "ahhhhs!" and "how sweet!"s. It really was the sweetest little thing.
This time, needless to say, - I did not tread on it but let it hop away into the bushes to live another day, - or longer if the cat did not find it again. I think, Schweitzer - and you - would have been proud of me that day!?

Best greetings to you all      Percy
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Reply #50 - 07. Feb 2008 at 18:28
 
Percy,
What a story!!  
Albert and I ARE proud of you!!  I think Albert would agree that loss of memory can be a good thing!  Didn't he say once that happiness is nothing more than good health and a bad memory?  
I was just thinking about you and the others here just the other day and realized how I have missed our dialogue these past few months.  

I'm always in a constant state of spiritual awakening anymore and as much as I welcome it and value it and feel blessed by it, I also feel 'alone' in the world much of the time.  

I just had my 47th birthday on the 6th and I received a gift of the book, ' A New Earth' and the CD version the book, written and narrated by Eckhart Tolle.   I HIGHLY recommend it.  

I'm doing well considering that I've survived 8 years of the Bush regime and I'm so looking forward to it's end!  

I must write more often and I will make a conscious decision to do so.  I sincerely hope that everyone here will contribute something/anything more often as I truly do value everyone's thoughts and insight.  I also value the like mindedness of the members here.  It's comforting and inspiring in such a blundted world.

Faen, it's good to hear from you and do stay in touch!  So you're living in OJ Simpson territory, aye?  Sorry to hear of your recent misfortunes.  Hang in there and keep a positive mindset about you and share your thoughts with us anytime.  Too bad we do not live closer and could share a cup of tea.  Perhaps I could be your next host family?  I could always use an assistant!  

In re: to animals and more specifically, animal abuse.  I must confess that I had a moment yesterday where, for the first time, decided that I should own a gun so that I can become a vigilante and shoot everyone who abuses animals.  Of course, I would never actually do such a thing but I do fantasize about such things.   I'm sure that some of you have heard stories about the dog fighting rings in my area ( Virginia) and how the animals are found so abused, so battered, so malnourished.  It's simply sickening and I can't even begin to describe the rage that lives in my heart when I see these animals. But, we must ask ourselves, where does the root of this antisocial behavior reside in our culture that would breed such cruelty.  

Love and Peace, Lizzie
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Reply #51 - 02. Mar 2008 at 01:34
 
hi again.. just got a chance to log in here and have a bit time to write, so thought I write..
thanks Percy for writing what you wrote..
now unfortunately kind of 'craziness' is continuing.. I needed to leave this hostfamily in Brentwood, with the two boys, we weren't a good match at all!.. they had a few au pairs since the last 11 months.. now they have a new one, she came one week ago, and fortunately I could move to my local childcare coordinator's house (LCCs are there for the au pairs, and hostfamilies, there is a LCC everywhere in a certain region for the au pairs)!.. so right now the rematching process with finding a new hostfamily has been going on again..
now of course it has come to that most important for me is that I find a good hostfamily now!!.. and of course I would like to stay in California for sure, you know how much I loove it here especially!.. but I need to be open for everything now, and am now, to go to any state.. because most important is for me now that I find a new hostfamily!!.. and I know I can come back to CA!..
it also has been frustrating somehow with how it goes with the matching process and the system and so on.. I have an account, also hostfamilies, also LCCs have sites to log in, and there I have some information, and I also see there when I have been prematched with a hostfamily..and as long as someone is in account, either for au pair or hostfamily, one then needs to talk to each other of course, and if it is no, then they need to release hostfamily from the account that the matching process can continue.. and has been frustrating because I haven't been able to reach the lady who does the placement immediately, and then also families have been in my account for more than two days, and well all with this how this is organized this way.. first there was a family from CA in my account, and obviously they needed to contact me first, I also so far had only names and children's names and ages in my account from hostfamilies, no phone number.. so I was told they need to contact me first, and then they were in my account for four days at least, and then obviously something else came up for them.. and now this week there was a family from Chicago, and at least I got a phone number then, then couldn't reach them though, then they were gone from my account yesterday, and there was another family from Illinois there.. and I talked to the hostmom today, and for me everything seemed fine, but now it doesn't work out with them because is obviously not 'good' for them that I had this accident, and they also need a driver.. so this is also additionally so frustrating for me, that just this accident happened - because I have been driving safely since I got my driver's license in 2000, and had never had any accident before!.. and I feel comfortable driving, just as I had.. but of course now I have this in my record, accident, and the hostfamilies get to know about it of course, and also need to check with the insurance how that would be.. so I guess also best for me would be now that I find a hostfamily who doesn't need a driver, because some don't!.... so now again I am waiting, and my time is getting short... oh gosh.. so you can imagine how I am feeling..
I can need all the good vibes, positive energy and thoughts I can have!! ( THANKS so much Megan, you know it *love you* <3 *hug* ) and keep focusing on that!!..
ok, so, am glad I got the chance now to come by here and write this and let you know what is going on right now for me.. will let you know what's going on as soon as I can again..
bye for now you all.. love to you all...
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Reply #52 - 31. Mar 2008 at 15:36
 
hi you all..
ok so I need to let you know what happened.. again can't write any more details at the moment, and additionally is also of course that I know this is a public forum, so there is much which I would like to tell you for sure, but just wouldn't want that anyone could read it here in the forum..
you know a few weeks ago I really thought it couldn't get any worse than it was.. and now it has Sad  but now I really really think and trust it can not get any worse than what has happened now!!.. now I trust as best, as much as I can, it can only get better!!!..
so, again summed up most briefly.. I got a hostfamily in Florida.. and arrived here on 11th March.. already the first day I came here, I intuitively had very uncomfortable feelings, and even felt a bit 'scared'!.. but I thought as most positive as I could, and did my best with the situation I could..
and I can only tell you, things have NOT gone 'right at all with this family, the local coordinator here, also connected with this program!! :'-( Sad Sad
and it was already terrible, horrible for me since I came here, and then on Thursday I experienced something which was one of the most horrible, terrible situations I have ever experienced in this way!!! :'-( Sad Sad  I can only tell you I have never felt so helpless and scared in this way!! Sad Sad
anyway the situation is now that I leave this hostfamily, which I can think of now as the most positive thing about this all!!!..
so I am in the same situation again as I have been -- am in transition now, and a new hostfamily is being found for me!!.. and I can still stay here with this hostfamily until 10th April.. at least I have the support and understanding for sure from my two former local coordinators in California!!!
I need soo much energy and strength, more than ever!!!..
I trust with all my heart that I will get to a good hostfamily now, with whom I resonate and that everything will be great together with each other!!! Smiley I trust that!! I keep focusing on positive thoughts, positive energy!!!! Smiley) as best as I can!!

a request - please let me know if there is anyone of you in Florida, near Tampa, with whom I could possibly meet?.. I don't have any friends here in the area now, so you can imagine additionally to the situation I even feel kind of more 'lost'..

And I want to write here again, to you Megan, thanks so much for being there for me!! and saying as often as I need it, and 'cheering me up', and 'encouraging' me - concerning positive thoughts, energy,..!! *love you* Smiley  Smiley  Smiley  *hug*

love to you all.. <3
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Reply #53 - 01. Apr 2008 at 11:05
 
Oh, Irene! what can we do to help you? I don't know anyone in Florida; but my heart really weeps for you.
Of course you can't tell us too much detail on this Forum, but I think you did have my E-mail address and you are welcome to use it to tell me more if that might help.
Perhaps you need to stop and take stock and examine why these things are happening to you? Perhaps this is not your path and you should be doing something else?
Do let us know what happens after the 10th April, and know that we are thinking of you!
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Reply #54 - 10. Apr 2008 at 02:04
 
first, Percy, thanks so much!! Smiley
I need to tell you more in detail, but at the moment is most important that I can write you most briefly summed up -- I am soo relived, soo thankful, just today, like again like 'in the last minute', got matched with a family in Tennessee!! Smiley))
I can't tell you how much I feel so many feelings at once -- now being totally relieved and thankful, but also now soo exhausted, in every way, I guess you can only imagine from all this going on, happening!!.. so, with this happening now, I guess so it somehow is meant to be that I can stay here, and continue being an Au Pair!!...
so I hope so much, that now nothing worse can happen in this way, as it has been happening now.. and that now really really all this 'craziness' is really ending now!!.. all this craziness, that has been going on for me since January!!...
ok well, so I will write to you again as soon as I get to it!..
thank you soo much you all! Smiley  
and you know it Megan, thanks SO much to you!!! *love you* Smiley Smiley
bye for now you all.. talk to you again soon..
much LOVE to you all <3
Irene
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Reply #55 - 23. Apr 2008 at 21:34
 
oh gosh... can't describe in words how I feel right now....
so I came here to TN on 11th April.. and everything has been fine with the family, I find the parents nice, and the kids too!!..
so I started working for them Monday last week.. and I mean it has been a complete, complete change for me again, again complete different lifestyle with this family.. and just alone the fact that they have five kids, much more going on,.. but also the three oldest kids are more indpendent of course, and can also help a bit.. the ages are 12, 10, 7, 4 and 2, the oldest and youngest are girls..
so everything was fine, I felt that it will be ok, just take some time of course until I would have also completely settle in with everything,..
I also needed to work that Saturday, and when I was off, the hostmom told me that they can't have an Au Pair now, that they needed to let me go!! Sad Sad  can you imagine how shocked and suprised I was??!.. it has nothing to do with me! --- but with things going on with the family, it isn't possible for them now obviously to have a new Au Pair.. but I mean you know I came to them, and was just with them one week.. but I understand, things have also been going on for the family.. something is going on with the youngest son, terrible happening like this, he got mercury poisened from shots and also obviously additionally something with lead which obviously came from paint which contains that on toys!.. this is terrible I find.. Sad so he is 'different' with his development, behavior,.. and just a couple of weeks or so before I came they found out more about it I think, and also like some days before I came started with a special diet which the boy needs, and also it started that he got medicine.. then also beginning of May they will move to another house.. so all this, and then they also said to me it is also mainly of the costs, that they also couldn't afford it now obvioulsy too to have an Au Pair I guess.. Sad Sad
I need SO MUCH TRUST, ENERGY, STRENGTH, LOVE, GOOD VIBES, POSITIVE ENERGY and POSITIVE THOUGHTS now!!!!!!.....
again now the same thing, that I got into transition, and am with this rematching process again with the agency.. now I somehow need to write something, that you get to know about it - they told me that unfortunately now it is not so 'good' the possibility that I get rematched with a family, since I have had four transitions already so far now.. but I will not think of that, as best as I can I focus on that yes I will get another hostfamily!!!!.. just imagine the 'bad luck' I have had.. Sad  all this happening!!... I mean now I have come to a family, and everything would have worked out, and now all this has happened for them, and this situation came about that they can't have an Au Pair now... Sad
PLEASE, very IMPORTANT -- please, if anyone of you gets to know about a family who would need/take an Au Pair, please let me know immediately!!! THANKS!!!
or also if anyone of you knows anything else what could help me somehow find a family.. I do also everything I can of course, because it is also possible if I have another family who would go with the agency, that's why I ask friends of course, anywhere in a group, forum, if anyone knows a family who would need an Au Pair!! and I also registered on four au pair sites which I found, where you can put an ad.. then I also thought about that I can contact other au pair agencies and find out if they would be able to take me into their program, coming from another agency, and having this visa,..
you know what would be.. if (and say it will not happen!) I don't get a family now, I get back sent to Austria.. it would be most terrible for me, you can imagine, when all this for me ends just like that!!.. Sad Sad Sad now I could/can still stay until February next year for sure, being an Au Pair!!!
I guess you already know now, how much I loooove it here in the USA!!!.. I feel at home here!! And it has been sooo wonderful for me (except what you know what has been going on now, crazy, since January..) staying, being with a family, taking care of the children, living with them!!! Smiley

thanks you all!! (again you know, it thanks soo much for everything my dear Megan *love you*)
love to you all....
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Reply #56 - 29. Apr 2008 at 21:29
 
hi you all..
I am feeling soo SAD and EXHAUSTED and feel soo much PAIN.... Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
imagine.. on Friday the program director tells me that I will not be rematched with any other hostfamily  Smiley  Smiley
I am so  pissed off at the system with the agency, so angry and so frustrated and so sad how things have happened.. Smiley  Smiley
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it was so fast, at the moment I couldn't do anything, I tried everything I could, talking with the program director, also with the other one from CA, said as much as I could concerning the situation, but the bad thing is that I was really 'helpless'..  Smiley.. also unfortunately the one coordinator from CA couldn't help me in some way, the program directors are above them in the position..
so imagine, I talked to this program director on Friday, and I couldn't do anything about that she said they would book me a flight on Monday, yesterday!..
I even didn't get the second week of my transition period, so I even didn't expect anything like that happening before 2nd May.. and I got in contact with other people, tried to find hostfamilies by myself, and would have still had a few days time to get in touch with friends and ask them if they knew anything else to do or so.. all this!
I have had a complete emotional breakdown, you can imagine!!!!  Smiley Smiley Smiley  
and I am thankful that I have a friend with whom I could talk to a bit at least on Friday also (THANKS SO so much my dear Megan!!! *love you lots, so much!!*)..
so at the moment I was 'helpless', I somehow needed to take this flight.. because although I have heard 'stories' from other au pairs, also from themselves, that some stayed longer also when that happened, and nothing happened with them or so, concerning visa or so.. because this visa when you are with that au pair program is specifically for staying legally in the country when working as an au pair with this agency for a family.. but still I don't have more information about that..
and because of the situation also because I even didn't have any more few days left, to get more information from someone, something like that.. I just knew ok as terrible and painful as this is at the moment, I need to take that flight.. because otherwise if something would have been, I wouldn't have wanted to take that risk, that just if something would have happened, however, and imagine it would have been the WORST for me if something would have been 'illegal' then in some way, and for example imagine if I couldn't come back to the country or so!!..

it is so so PAINFUL.. as if the situation alone concerning this wouldn't be enough, I even didn't get a chance to say bye, bye for now, to my friends.... to still meet with some and say bye for now at least... Smiley

I keep focusing on as best as I can now, that I will come back to the USA as soon as I can, that FOR SURE!!!.. so I need to keep thinking about that, no matter what happens here in Austria now.... it all is such a SHOCK for me!!... Smiley
at the moment I don't know what can help me, I mean it will be very very hard and difficult now the next several days, or even weeks for sure...
I know at least I can talk to friends through email, chatting, meeting with webcams also with some, talking on the phone!!....

also what is very much pain for me too, I mean that is what makes it mainly even worse for me now, being right now here again in Austria.. is that the situation with my parents.. as I have already told you about.. it is terrible  Smiley, between them, and also just our whole family connection, my parents, my brother and me.. there is 'no real' 'true' love between each other.. I mean at least I know that in some way, even if in a 'violent' way somehow my parents do care for me, otherwise they wouldn't want that everything is ok with insurance for me here, that I need to work here in Austria first for a bit at least (unfortunately for me of course, because you know it, how much I know that my home is in the USA!!), and otherwise they wouldn't still support me financially, all this..
but same pain just immediately I arrived here, with them fighting with each other, communication, relationship between them, and my brother and me..
but at least I have the consciousness and awareness of this all and can as best as I can communicate in a nonviolent way.. and just keep focusing on positive thoughts and energy, healing,..!!

I would appreciate it so much if you can please write me back here and/or privately....

please tell me that everything will be ok somehow!!.. that somehow there is a 'reason' now for all this happening, although it is terrible and very painful for me at the moment.....

thank you so so much you all!...
love to you all..... *hug*
Irene

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Reply #57 - 30. Apr 2008 at 12:22
 
Oh dear, Irene, you are back in Austria and you want us to tell you, that "everything will be ok somehow, - ....that there is a reason for what is happening to you...."

What can you do in your present state of shock and pain to find answers to these questions?

One thing I am sure about: only we ourselves can find answers to such questions inside our hearts. They cannot be told to us by someone else.

So, what can you do to take stock of what has happened? - to examine why you went to the USA in the first place? - how you have attracted to yourself, or have been attracted to the situations you have encountered there? - what were the reasons you wanted to leave Austria?

May I suggest, you take yourself to a place you used to love as a child, at a time when you won't be disturbed there, (it can be a public place, like a park or even a market place or street, if there is nowhere you can be on your own, - strangers need not be a disturbance to you), sit or walk, and notice that you are not starving, that you don't have a fever, that there is no threat to your life, that you have clothes and are warm; - then notice the sky, the sunshine or the rain, the trees and the birds and the insects, everything that is alive around you; - then listen to the sounds you can hear and if you can, hear the silence behind the sounds; - then listen to the thoughts inside your head and feel the pulse coursing through your body and the feelings in your heart. if you can, just be still in that place and know you are alive in your body.

Then, after a while, go and do the next thing which needs to be done, - which you know you should do, - quietly and calmly, and then the next and the next.

Gradually, you will know the answers to your questions. You will remember.

You are not alone. You are never alone as long as you are alive; and the course of your life leads you to the lessons you have come here to learn.
That you do know for sure, - you have just forgotten it!

Percy


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Reply #58 - 30. Apr 2008 at 15:26
 
I share many of the same thoughts as Percy.  
When something in my life isn't working, I tend to be very introspective and ask myself what it is that I'm doing that commands the results that I'm getting.  Then I change my mindset and approach the challenge from a different angle to find a solution.  
I'm a firm believer that what happens in my life is necessary for me to become a wiser and more enlightened human being.  I do not perceive most difficult situations as suffering.  Suffering to me, is only a state of discomfort relative to a more comfortable state of being.  So, with that said, I know that in order for me to feel comfortable again, I must change direction.  It's that ' simple'. The challenge is that we need to be brave enough to be honest with ourselves about why we are not allowing ourselves to manifest joy and success.

Humans are creatures of habit.  We allow ourselves to become short sighted because it's easier to do so.  I know people who have done the same job for more than twenty years and they never even liked the job.  They do it because it's all they have ever allowed themselves to manifest.  Maybe their father wanted them to be a doctor, maybe they felt inferior so they chose a prestigious career, maybe they didn't believe that doing what one loves to do should be their job, maybe they didn't think others would approve or that their expertise was not good enough?

I don't know if I wrote about my ovarian cancer on here or not.  First of all, I rarely ever write about this because I don't like to 'see' or imagine myself as diseased and I hate the ' C' word.  But, let me share something with you about how our state of being affects our physical health.
For years I was in a horrible marriage, it was pure torture and I felt as though I was a prisoner.  I couldn't see any way out.  I couldn't imagine being free to make my own mistakes and manifest my own success. I was an artist and scientist and musician and my creativity as well as most of my brain function was gone, I couldn't even notice my own breath.   I was a walking corpse.  Then, in 2005, I got the news- ovarian cancer. It was a shock to say the least and the long and short of it was that I knew that I was essentially spiritually dead at that point so the only thing for me to lose was my physical body.  But my dear friend and doctor said to me, ' liz, a woman's ovary is her center of creation, it is her source of life and I think that you are allowing yourself to be stifled and not live your passion and I think your ovary is telling you that unles you pursue your passion , you will die".  At first I thought, yeah, such frufru.  But, what did I have to lose? SO, I decided that if I was going to die, so be it but before I died, I had to learn to play fiddle, get to the Arctic and I had to pursue my passion of medicine.  So, I bought a fiddle and I enrolled in school ( I'm still trying to get to the Arctic before it melts away) Within 5 months, my medical exams were miraculously clear ( without any chemo or radiation) There was no sign of tumor.  I wasn't having any pain in my lower back, I was feeling productive, alive, and welcomed the new challenges in my life.  My doctor and I were amazed but she seemed to know all along that somehow my body would heal itself once I healed my spirit.  
I guess my point is that when we ignore our passion, we are ignoring our spirit and our bodies cry out to us.  Additionally, we can see what's happening to our spirit by noticing what is happening in our lives.  What we experience in our lives on a daily basis is reflective of what we are enduring inside.  If angry people seem to be in my presence, then I know that I'm eduding a negative energy that attracts them and I must examine the source of that negativity and resolve it in order to change my environment.  If my home or office is in chaos, then my spirit is as well.
I count my blessings each day.  I'm alive, I'm well, I'm working to heal others and I have a perfectly wonderful part time flexible job that pays beans but gives me immense joy and a feeling of accomplishment.


Irene, another thing that I had to do was sever all bonds with my family.  I know that sounds harsh and I'm not recommending this to you.  But, in my case, I had exhausted every possible attempt to have a relationship with my family.  I grew up in a well, let's just say, very difficult family.  They were a very large source of misery for me most of my life and my husband was just an extension of that toxic relationship.  I do not judge my family other than to know that being in their presence harms me by preventing me from loving myself.  Once you can recognize your own Divine nature and realize that it's completely independent of anyone else, including your family, you will feel so liberated and your mind and heart will open to all good things.

Lizzie
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Reply #59 - 30. Apr 2008 at 15:41
 
Irene,

Just a couple of thoughts:

Your job seems to involve the nurturing of others. Where, when and how do YOU receive nurturing?  

Have you ever examined why you are attracted to caring for children?

I'm not suggesting that it's not an admirable career.  I'm only suggesting that you ask yourself why it is that you feel so inclined to make a profession of nurturing others.

At one time I was a school teacher because I loved children and I had a great desire to protect children.  I soon found out after suffering tremendous stress and heartache that I was nurturing children in an effort to nurture my own innerchild.  At one point not long ago, I had 30 children that I cared for in a homeless shelter.  I was spending almost all my money on buying them school supplies, clothing, toys, food, etc...  Nothing wrong with that if one can afford to do so but I was selling myself down the river to save them.  I had to stop and ask myself why?????

Now, I only give what I can afford to give.  I nurture myself and honor myself first.  Then I have more ability to give.  

Albert Schweitzer taught me this very thing  a few years ago as I read one of his quotes:

A great secret of success is to go through life as a man who never gets used up.

( all I could see was myself being drained emotionally, physically and financially by everyone in my life and it was by my own doing!)

He also wrote:
-A man can do only what he can do. But if he does that each day he can sleep at night and do it again the next day.


-A man does not have to be an angel in order to be saint.




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